He or she?

[Itsy Bitsy]

Holy fvck yck. The relationship can not be causal, complementary, parallel or reciprocal without a VARIABLE. So what variable were you referring to? What CHANGES?

[yorkcountykid]

i say you haven't a clue what you are talking about lol. i explained the variable and i'm not retyping it.

i suggest you give me one example using your version of 'variable' to clear this up.

below is my definition of variable and i have no idea what yours is.

var·i·a·ble (vâr - -b l, v r -). adj. 1. a. Likely to change or vary; subject to variation; changeable.

[Itsy Bitsy]

Yes like, the more attractive a person is the more likely they are to get a date. So the correlation is between relative attractiveness and number of dates. Both of those things must change parallel to one another. They are both variables.

You had one variable (sexual preference certainly can vary) and one non-specific/ undefined constant (one's natural appearance). Now if you were to say something more like, the more typically male features a woman displays the more likely she is to be attracted to other women, that would be a  correlation.

 

[yorkcountykid]

 natural, unaltered appearance is a variable as it varies from person to person. i took it for granted that you knew everyone has a different natural, unaltered appearance that varies in degrees as to the feminine and masculine qualites. so THEN, just as people vary in sexual preference, they vary in natural, unaltered appearance.

[yorkcountykid]

for instance, rock hudson was a masculine looking man and yet he was a f***. jerry seinfeld looks very feminine to me and yet he is 'allegedly' straight--and if he isn't, there are other feminine looking men who are. therefore, it would be correct to say there is no correlation between masculine or feminine appearance and sexual preference.

earlier, i added the terms 'natural' and 'unaltered' to rule out make up or other forms of trickery.

[Itsy Bitsy]

So what you meant was that there is no correlation between how masculine/ feminine a person looks and how sexually attracted they are to women/ men. Nobody actually said that, though I do have to disagree with you. Homosexual males for instance tend to look more feminine than straight males. That's why people are often able to identify gay men.

But that is not what I was saying. I was saying that the fact that people have difficulty distinguishing between men and women on occasion would suggest that there is an overlap between varying sexualities. For example, a male being "straight" may mean he likes feminine features... which are typically found on women, but are occasionally found on men. So it's more a matter of personal taste in features then it is of a strict limitation on what the persons anatomical gender is.

[Itsy Bitsy]

and for the record, you started that argument with the following quote

"there is no medical correlation between the natural, unaltered appearance and sexual preference in an average, healthy human being--is there?"

No mention of femininity/ masculinity whatsoever....

[DDD]

^It doesn't prove there's a problem, it just proves some men carry out their "look" better than others.  I don't mind treating homosexuals/bisexuals/transsexuals as equals as long as they are maintaining respect for those around them. As for tricking someone into sex, that's never ok regardless the gender or sexual preference.

well said

[yorkcountykid]

and for the record, you started that argument with the following quote

"there is no medical correlation between the natural, unaltered appearance and sexual preference in an average, healthy human being--is there?"

No mention of femininity/ masculinity whatsoever....

 it was a given since this whole thing is based on the men dressing up as women (in an attempt to look feminine) in those pics. they are changing their natural look to appear more feminine by altering it with make up. this is why i used the words 'natural' and 'unaltered'. your post below states that just because they CAN appear as either gender, it blurs the solid line between straight and gay or a man and a woman. by that logic 'fool's gold' blurs the solid line between real gold and fake gold. i think not and so does the rest of the honest world and i disagree with your post below..

''''''''If anything it proves that there isn't always a solid line between gay and straight or man and woman as many people can appear to be either gender.''''''''''